Diddy challenges Jermaine Dupri to a beaten battle
Over the past 18 months, Verzuz has grown into one of the most important platforms in hip-hop and pop culture in general. The battle / celebration format developed by Swizz Beatz and Timbaland started out as a healing balm to relieve the stress of lockdown, and has grown into a phenomenon in its own right. Now that people have returned to society and are moving towards “normalcy,” Verzuz has only gotten fatter.
Earlier this week, millions of fans were treated to an entertaining battle between Fat Joe and Ja Rule. The two friends fought using both their street records and their records. By comparison, it was a much nicer affair than the all-out brawl that took place between The LOX and Dipset in the same theater in Madison Square Garden a month earlier.
Typically, Fat Joe has used his live Instagram to host recap shows for the Verzuz series. This week, however, despite attending the match, it was Fat Joe’s conversation about another potential Verzuz battle that rocked hip-hop.
Yesterday Joe moderated a discussion which at various times included Swizz Beatz, Timbaland, Snoop Dogg, Jermaine Dupri and Sean “Diddy” Combs. What started as a post-game discussion between Joe and Swizz quickly turned into the possibility of a Verzuz between JD and Puff Daddy. Puff and Jermaine had recently traded shots over who would win if they took the stage, with Diddy commenting that Dupri’s arms were “too short to box with God”. The Bad Boy artist-producer-entrepreneur has also said he’ll only fight Dr. Dre.
While Joe and Swizz Beatz are talking, Snoop Dogg joins the discussion and quickly rules out the possibility of a Dr. Dre and Diddy Verzuz. Snoop says of Dre, “Dr. Dre is not going to enter this ring. This is not attractive to Dr. Dre. That does not move Dr. Dre. I’ll just be honest with you. He goes further to explain Dre’s mindset, saying, “He hasn’t forgotten where he came from. It’s just that it doesn’t appeal to him. It doesn’t move him. It must move him. It doesn’t make him sit down and play his music. And, at the same time, when it comes to performance, if it’s not hellish production, Cuz doesn’t come down.
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With Snoop forcefully conveying the status of Dr. Dre, Swizz Beatz brings the conversation back to the possibility of Jermaine Dupri and Diddy (also known as Love) clashing. Shortly after, Jermaine Dupri joined IG’s live session. As the conversation about the potential battle continues, Joe asks JD what his response would be to the records Puff Daddy would definitely play with the late Notorious BIG. South has been breathing Hip-Hop for nearly two decades.
Fat Joe, Snoop Dogg and Jermaine Dupri continue their conversation for several minutes, when Joe decides to take a risk and see if he can rally Sean “Diddy” Combs. To everyone’s surprise, Puff answers the invitation and he arrives in blazing arms, filling the virtual room with smoke for Dupri. “Yes, short arms. You need to relax, Short Arms. You hear me? I said you had to relax, ”Puff said before even recognizing someone else on the screen. Diddy clarifies that Dupri is his brother and that he loves him. He also makes it known that Dupri shouldn’t want any part of a battle with him, emphatically saying “I’m not here to play. I have to tell everyone. You have amnesic muthaf * ckas. I gave you life for muthaf * ckin ’20 years of music !! ” He ends his opening missive with “Don’t play with me, boy !!”
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Diddy’s break is brief. He quickly picks up on the question Joe asked earlier about Biggie Smalls, saying “What are you going to do when ‘One More Chance’ drops ?? What are you going to do when ‘Warning’ falls? Dupri tries to answer, and Puff won’t let him enter a word, around the edges. He shouts “I am the greatest !! I’m the tallest man !! What the hell are you talking about ?! “Puff continues his assault, attacking Dupri’s catalog.” Hi brother. I can’t even hear them play your bullshit! When they get into the club, I can’t hear them playing your bullshit! I can’t hear them playing Kris Kross! Nobody is moving Kris Kross sh * t! He said. Diddy then once again made his real target known by shouting “Yo!” I want Dre! Wear is Dre ??? ”
After dropping out of the stream, Diddy momentarily rejoins and challenges Dupri to fight him on the spot, then, in front of the world, on Instagram live. “Let’s go now, man!” You can play them now. Just do a 5 for 5 test very quickly. Play your 5 best joints! When Joe asks Jermaine what records he’s going to play, Dupri hesitates saying, “We don’t do all of this.” Puff immediately jumped up saying “Aww. You are afraid of the ass. I defy you! I defy you!”
Puff Daddy continues to try and drag Dupri into battle, starting to state the records he would play against Dupri. When Dupri doesn’t bite the hook, Puff takes it one step further and starts playing the records. For several minutes, he plays his song “Victory”, with The Notorious BIG, “Who Shot Ya” by Biggie and “Hypnotize”, “Come and Talk To Me” by Jodeci, “Black Rob” “Whoa”, Mary J. “Real Love” and “I’m Goin ‘Down” by Blige, “I Need A Girl (Remix)” by Diddy and “All About The Benjamins”, the remix of “Flava In Ya Ear” by Craig Mack and ” Waka Flocka Flame “O Let’s Do It” remix with Diddy. Throughout the conversation, Puff, Joe, Snoop and apparently everyone in the chat is urging on, almost begging Dupri to play a record, but he refuses, stating that he wants Combs to sign the papers so they can do it. an official Verzuz in an arena, and probably for a lot of money. Puff seems to speak for people when he says “JD, as a friend. You don’t play a song, it’s so anti-Hip-Hop. Despite being a billion dollar mogul, it’s clear that Diddy’s love for hip-hop is paramount.
Eventually Dupri gives in and plays a snippet of Usher’s “Confessions” but, to many viewers, he feels like he wasted what could have been a huge moment for the culture. Two of those people who share this perspective are none other than the founders of Verzuz, Swizz Beatz and Timbaland, who join the conversation after Diddy says goodbye. Swizz tells Dupri, “JD, I’m not going to lie though. That would have been a good start for the showmanship. You could have hit him with 2 or 3. [records] although. People wanted to see it. Swizz does not consider that a pre-match battle cannibalizes Verzuz. Instead, he likens it to the hype surrounding the weigh-in before a boxing match. Timbaland shares Swizz’s feelings, saying “Shit, JD! You gotta know when it’s pre-game, man!
While the timing wasn’t all it could have been, watching 6 hip-hop titans savor their love of culture for over an hour was hugely entertaining. And, if Diddy and Jermaine Dupri finally clash with their catalogs, it will certainly be fireworks. Maybe Dupri was right to save his catalog for the potential big night, but Puff’s performance yesterday was just dominant.